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5/07/2018 6:21 pm  #41


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

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5/07/2018 6:26 pm  #42


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

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5/08/2018 3:06 pm  #43


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

John West wrote:

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I had a chance to meet a lot of vintage old Communists a couple of weeks ago, all retired colonels and senior ranks in the Red Army's ideological training branch. I don't know if its these types you were thinking of here, but I find they constitute a kind of living disproof to some of the more superficial New Atheist rhetoric and assumptions.

I think with New Atheism in general the problem is often more about countering rhetoric and sound bites because the arguments often don't go beyond a certain level. If theists attempt more thoughtful engagement it can be interesting (as an example, Alistair McGrath's book about Dawkins), but I doubt it makes much impact on actual New Atheists.       
 

 

5/08/2018 6:04 pm  #44


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

FZM wrote:

I had a chance to meet a lot of vintage old Communists a couple of weeks ago, all retired colonels and senior ranks in the Red Army's ideological training branch. I don't know if its these types you were thinking of here, but I find they constitute a kind of living disproof to some of the more superficial New Atheist rhetoric and assumptions.

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5/08/2018 6:25 pm  #45


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

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5/16/2018 7:48 pm  #46


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

DanielCC wrote:

There are two things at work....

2. Politics, politics, politics - the worm which has devoured Man's heart and enslaved his soul. People often display knee-jerk behavioristic reactions to metaphysical questions because of the most contingent parochial Culture WarsTM association.

Speaking of, I ran across this article (http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2015/02/camo-and-conversions-the-parallels-between-duck-dynasty-and-dante-culture.html) an hour ago by conservative Rod Dreher that looks at conservative anti-intellectualism.  I think there are differences between the smug atheist provincialism and the simple-country-wisdom act that anti-intellectual conservatives put on, but I don't think they are ultimately different animals.  And I think they both have a lot to do with politics and the culture wars.
 

 

5/16/2018 7:53 pm  #47


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

John West wrote:

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Haha   Explain what you mean by that jab at rock concerts.

 

5/16/2018 8:40 pm  #48


Re: How to end atheist provincianism/promote philosophical education?

Brian wrote:

Haha   Explain what you mean by that jab at rock concerts.

I was taking rock concerts as a paradigm of the post-'68 culture. I also think a packed rock concert, the audience brought to a fevered pitch, can be a rather terrifying sight.

 

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