Classical Theism, Philosophy, and Religion Forum / Why do you believe in substances?

**Posted by No True Scottist** 11/27/2016 11:35 pm

"God blocks our detecting him with our senses with a miracle" seems to work fine to me.

I know that Aquinas holds that the substance of the bread changes to the substance of Christ's body, while the accidental qualities, and the quantity property of the bread remains. I'm just not sure if mention of substances are necessary to account for what actually goes on in Transubstantiation as a matter of Catholic doctrine or not.

**Posted by John West** 11/28/2016 8:43 am

No True Scottist wrote:
I know that Aquinas holds that the substance of the bread changes to the substance of Christ's body, while the accidental qualities, and the quantity property of the bread remains. I'm just not sure if mention of substances are necessary to account for what actually goes on in Transubstantiation as a matter of Catholic doctrine or not.

Me neither.

(Just for the record, even though I defend Aristotelianism in my previous posts, I myself don't subscribe to it.)

**Posted by John West** 11/29/2016 10:26 am

About the discussion on the Eleatic principle: categorical properties (non-powers) are, by definition, counterexamples to it.