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Theoretical Philosophy » Non-personal necessary being » Today 5:53 am

DanielCC
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I am reviewing one of Leslie’s books at present. To give him his due he ended his theory as neautral between theism and pantheism, though develops ‘pantheism’ as a full thesis in Infinite Minds. I am not sure the Optimalist is committed to a a non-theistic necessary being though. They may try to argue that what the Optimalist thesis implies is that ‘Necessarily a very good world exists’, where very good is taken de dicto to mean any world that satisfies that description, ergo although it’s necessary that such a world exists it is contingent just which world it happens to be, as opppsed to a de re reading ‘A very good world exists necessarily’, in which case one specific world exists necessarily and we have modal collapse.

The Optimalist theist might say that God’s necessary existence, that of an all good free agent, better accounts for the contingency of the world.

Religion » Jesus Christ » Today 2:44 am

How is Mythicism becoming more popular? Mythicism is mostly popular on the internet, especially among New Atheists. Besides, whether the historical Jesus existed is a settled question in academia.

Religion » Jesus Christ » Today 1:46 am

RomanJoe
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Due_Kindheartedness wrote:

Hypatia wrote:

I'm suspicious of anyone who tries as hard as Mythicists do to twist the historical evidence to fit a pet theory rather than letting it speak for itself. It's just bad scholarship.

Mythicism is becoming more popular among people though. Most people don't know that Jordan Peterson is probably a mythicist and there are Christians who are saying that he's one of those "sincere seekers of the truth." WTF?
 

Is it? Why do you think that? Do you think it's becoming more popular in academia or the general populous? I can assure you that it's far more of a fringe theory in academia than it is among lay people. That being said, its popularity isn't enough to satisfy its credentials as a credible theory. Plenty of fringe academic theories become popular cultural trends. For instance the eliminative materialist understanding of the mind seems to be a fringe theory in academia but perhaps to the typical lay secular who isn't too familiar with the relevant philosophy of mind literature (this might even hold true for the typical secular scientist) eliminative materialism may seem viable-"It's just the brain and its chemical functions, ya know." From my anecdotal experience it seems to be the case that a lot of people are willing to accept certain academic fringe theories under the assumption that those theories are "scientific" or reflect the academic consensus. I remember I had a professor who said that the existence of Jesus is a very split issue among scholars. It's not, but some people believe it is. 
 

Religion » Jesus Christ » Yesterday 11:39 pm

Hypatia wrote:

I'm suspicious of anyone who tries as hard as Mythicists do to twist the historical evidence to fit a pet theory rather than letting it speak for itself. It's just bad scholarship.

Mythicism is becoming more popular among people though. Most people don't know that Jordan Peterson is probably a mythicist and there are Christians who are saying that he's one of those "sincere seekers of the truth." WTF?
 

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John West
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Religion » Jesus Christ » Yesterday 5:40 pm

Hypatia
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Due_Kindheartedness wrote:

Hypatia wrote:

Honestly, the amount of creative reinterpretation that you need to do to make the Pauline Epistles say what the Mythicists want them to say is pretty remarkable. I'm not sure how they manage to get "born of a woman" in Galatians 4:4-5 to mean "not born of a woman" instead, but I suspect they have their methods.

I think they would deny Galatians was written by Paul. It is one of the disputed epistles according to Wikipedia, so this could be a viable interpretation.
 

No, Galatians is one of the seven epistles generally considered authentic. It does seem that they doubt the authenticity of that particular line, though, judging it to be a later interpolation because Tertullian doesn't refer to it in quite the way they think he ought to have. Because they are mind readers and all.

I'm suspicious of anyone who tries as hard as Mythicists do to twist the historical evidence to fit a pet theory rather than letting it speak for itself. It's just bad scholarship. 

Religion » Jesus Christ » Yesterday 5:30 pm

FZM
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There is some interesting material illustrating why Jesus Mythicism is a fringe position among historians on this guy's site:

https://historyforatheists.com/jesus-mythicism/

He's also an atheist.

Introductions » New to Classical Theism, glad to be here.... » Yesterday 2:20 pm

tchambers
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My name is Tim Chambers, am facinated by Classical Theistic ideas, and come to it from a mutt of a Christian background. In my teens I became a Christian at a very theologically conservative Presbyterian reformed church in my teens, but now am theologically about 80% iin sync with my understanding of Eastern Orthodox theology, but culturally fit better in a non-denominational Protestant Church in the DC area.

Been constantly rethinking and reforming my faith but also facinated with how other traditions have expressed Classical Theism. I set up a FB group to discuss just that on that platform as well.
 

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