1 | Religion » On philosophical objections to the Chalcedonian Incarnation doctrine » 9/23/2018 1:38 pm |
- Jason
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Johannes, you are right about the instantiation, I was so focussed on the non-competitive aspect of my argument I missed that important piece. What I was trying to say is that since being participates in Being non-competitively so does Christ's two natures do the same. What I mean by non-competitively is that God Being does not totally take over being because God is Being rather than one being among many. Taken this way there is no problem with Christ being fully human and fully divine at the same time.
Thank you for the detailed explanation, appreciate it. Is there any Thomistic book that explores these topics?
| Religion » On philosophical objections to the Chalcedonian Incarnation doctrine » 9/21/2018 10:28 am |
- Jason
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Johannes and John, thank you for this thread I am learning a lot from this debate. Though I would side with Johannes (being a Catholic, sorry John
) but kidding aside Johannes I would like your comments to see if I am on the right track of thinking.
If God is Being then every being instantiates their being from Being in a non competitive way, that is to say if I get my being from Being then Being does not overcome me completely because it instantiates it. This is taken as a step further in the Incarnation where the second person of the Trinity is one with the human soul of Christ in a non-competitive way such that the human soul of Christ cannot exist without the second person of the Trinity but can still exist without being overpowered by him completely. This would mean that Christ is fully human and fully Divine.
The reason why God can be fully human and divine at the same time is because He is not one being in many but is Being itself (Subsistent Act of Being to be more accurate) hence He and only He would have the power to do so.
| Religion » Why or why not Islam? Why or why not Judaism? » 9/21/2018 10:05 am |
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Etzelnik wrote:Jason: that is not the topic of this thread, nor is it a topic which I have the time to get to involved in at the moment. Suffice it to say that this thread is predicated on the assumption that Christianity is based on an absurdity, as the opening post will show.
But my point stands regardless. Just substitute 'Catholic Mass' for 'Sufi Ecstasy' or some other beautiful ritual or edifice belonging to a religion you see as false - I'm sure you can find such a thing if you try hard enough.You are right it is not the topic of the thread, I agree. I was just honestly curious to know. I am a Catholic so I do think however that there is some beauty in every religion and hence there is some truth there (but of course the full truth is revealed in Jesus).
| Religion » Why or why not Islam? Why or why not Judaism? » 9/17/2018 12:46 pm |
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John West wrote:
I'm curious: What do you gentlemen think the relationship between beauty and truth is? I'm characteristically skeptical about identifying the two (cf. Nietzsche: “Poets lie too much.”), but I think a religion without beauty would be a sad and impoverished thing.
Hey John I came across something
that kind of reminded me of your question.Etzelnik wrote:Take a Catholic Mass in a majestic cathedral. The religion is a false one, and yet its rites evoke tremendous beauty.
I would be very interested to know why it is a false religion.
| Chit-Chat » Just a bit of good news » 6/26/2018 4:16 pm |
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Congratulations, I too had a son just recently (he is my third with a daughter and a son before him). What a blessing it is.
| Chit-Chat » What's everyone reading? » 3/21/2018 11:09 am |
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For me going back to the classics, where I am half way through St Augustine's confessions (FJ Sheed translation) and going to read Thomas Merton's Seven Story Mountain (which I have never read before but looking forward to it).
| Chit-Chat » Somedays God doesn't exist » 2/13/2018 9:36 am |
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I find regular time in prayer helps in building a lasting relationship with God. One of the things I would recommend is mental prayer, for an introduction see . I found it very helpful in my journey hopefully will help you as well.
| Introductions » Another Introduction » 1/13/2018 11:13 am |
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Welcome!
| Theoretical Philosophy » The Principle of Parsimony » 1/13/2018 11:03 am |
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I do not think that this argument can work since for A/T God is the reason we even have our ontology in the first place. So to say that God expands our ontology does not even make sense. Involving God in our ontology does not expand it but explains it.
| Chit-Chat » Merry Christmas! » 12/25/2017 2:16 pm |
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Merry Christmas and God Bless to all.