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Practical Philosophy » Liberty and regulation » 10/24/2018 3:15 am

Timocrates
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seigneur wrote:

Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook ban certain brands of views? They are big companies who only care about profit. They do not notice anybody's views. They only censor because some expressions, such as invitations to lynch, sharing copyrighted data, and stalking, are illegal.

I see the Left is back to rewriting even history that happened less than four years ago. I hope you are being paid for this because brain damage is irreverisble.

Religion » Trump is a messenger of HaShem » 10/24/2018 3:08 am

Timocrates
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seigneur wrote:

His handling of North Korea, Syria, Iran, and most lately of the nuclear anti-proliferation treaty with Russia are strong proofs of that Trump has no clue what gets countries in unnecessary conflicts..

That is the single dumbest nonsense I have ever seen posted anywhere. What you mean to say is that your own ambitions to start a conflict are thwarted because we will wipe you off the face off the map and not even blink an eye. That "people" like you even exist disgusts me.

seigneur wrote:

Conflicts that have found diplomatic solutions in the past, insofar as they are known to exist, deserve to be stirred up again because this puts Trump at the centre of the arena.

That's right. You want the conflicts stirred up again because you need U.S forces wasted abroad. I also really like your deliberately chosen username. Very special.

You will be annihilated. No apologies. Get used to it.

Practical Philosophy » Liberty and regulation » 10/23/2018 12:00 pm

Timocrates
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Dennis wrote:

For those people who are interested and feel uneasy because of the major tech companies colluding with each other to censor certain brands of views and de-platform them, what kind of regulations or lack thereof do you predict there will be on specific monopolies like YouTube, Facebook and twitter, as well as other platforms or the internet as a whole in the future?

A distinct but interrelated question, would you like to see more censorship or lesser censorship on the internet, and what would motivate either of those decisions?

They can't ban their user base and wont risk direct confrontation with the manifest will of the American people. Regulation isn't the problem here: it's the social weaponization of political correctness. Once people begin to refuse to accept and tolerate it by fighting back and starting quagmires,then the bad press, hassle and cost of such battles will result in social media corps backing away from engaging in censorship. It's no different than the fall of the Soviet Union: the whole thing is based on an artificial representation of reality that is entirely fictitious. Once the illusion is shattered then the power and control disappears.

Religion » Trump is a messenger of HaShem » 10/23/2018 10:58 am

Timocrates
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119 wrote:

My primary criticism of Trump is the same as my criticism of his predecessor: our war against Yemen is an atrocity. What part of "Thou shalt not kill" don't Republicans and Democrats understand? Notice how much attention this receives in the news. Anyone remember that school bus thingy from last month?

Want to unite the country? We need a Peace Party.

I don't know much about the circumstances in Yemen but I do know Trump has demonstrated an unwillingness to involve America in unnecessary conflicts. His handling of North Korea and Syria so far are strong proofs of that, in my opinion. He's also a traditional American geopolitical isolationist, an extremely radical turn from post-WWII tendencies of the United States. Still, we have to face the problem of geopolitical interests coming from, e.g., Russia and China and the sad reality that the "ban hammer" of military might is the only guarantee states such as those wont try to exploit a policy of non-intervention to expand their spheres of influence in an attempt to realize their own global ambitions.

Religion » Trump is a messenger of HaShem » 10/23/2018 10:35 am

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nojoum wrote:

It's ironic that I once told a Trump supporter that someday you will hail Trump as a man sent by God!
Guess what...
 

There is nothing extraordinary about believing people can be instruments of God, even unawares. In the biblical worldview God uses both good and even sometimes evil men to accomplish His will.

What the OP said is hardly unique to Trump. There has been backlash against globalism since I was in high school in the 90s. When I took a Global Issues class, we talked about globalism and the consensus of the left was that it was actually a horrible thing and my teacher was borderline communist. Now the left is outright championing globalism. Still that teacher accepted Malthusianism, which like all false materialistic philosophies planted the seed for the destruction of the left in practice (he also used it to justify globalistic population control programs, artificial contraception, abortion, etc. - all of which require globalistic structures to enforce). The fact the left has been hijacked by neoliberalism (under Clinton) and far-left identity politics (under Obama) while pushing nonetheless for a global super state just shows, to me, that the liberal wing of Western societies were corrupted in their leadership and divorced from their own core beliefs, being fed a steady diet of manipulative propaganda and sophistry on one hand while impossibly still trying to forge a  "one world society." That is of course insane because identity politics is tribalism writ large. The Left then has the maddening audacity to accuse the right of engaging in Nativism! This once again is leftist projection.

Never-Trumpers and Leftists both call Trump a populist, which means he represents the beliefs that are popular among the people. So the message Trump is delivering first had its origins in the mind and thinking of the people. Now how does a democrat complain about the beliefs of the people being the voice of ultimate authority? Indeed, believers se

Practical Philosophy » Positive economics and normative political economy » 5/13/2018 10:33 pm

Timocrates
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In my experience modern neoliberal market economics is just a combination of materialism, hyper-individualism, libertarianism and ultimately Darwinism (with all the assumptions of naive liberalism) put into practice in the area of economic doctrine. It fails to differentiate between rational and irrational market forces or trends and legitimizes individualistically capitalizing on dangerous and destructive behaviour and even encouraging it (e.g. via investment).

Economics is a practical science and philosophy dealing with rational agents and is therefore subordinate to ethics for legitimacy.

Market economics all too often employs a destructive survival of the fittest ethic, which especially for humans is radically anti-social. It is no accident that Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations hit a serious problem when it came to national vs private profit interests and patriotic duty or virtue.

Now I am not arguing for socialism here. I am a capitalist but a limited capitalist: in times of total war when the very survival of freedom or liberty or of the nation is at stake, just about every capitalist becomes a die-hard socialist because suddenly we perceive a hierarchy of values and realize that profit on one hand and vice or the superfluous/unnecassary or waste on the other hand become irrelevant in significance.

Practical Philosophy » The Democracy Mistake » 5/13/2018 8:53 pm

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Caeliger wrote:

Democracy, especially in the currently understood "universal" sense, is a pure fallacy. By metaphysical law it is impossible for good things to proceed from "below"; that is, from what we might call "Substance" (crudely convertible, in Scholastic terminology, to "Existence" in the universal). What this amounts to saying is that what is good can ultimately only proceed from Being to beings, not the other way around.

Universal Substance is the "passive" (synonyms from various traditions and practical applications for reference: moon, negative, Gaia, Niflheim, passive, centrifugal)  ontological pole of creation, the "opposite" (complementary) being Essence, crudely called "Substance" by many Scholastics, which is the "active" (sun, positive, Ouranos, Muspelheim, active, centripetal) pole. These, by interaction, manifest the "wheel of life", in Christian tradition "creation".

It may seem that I am merely "speculating" here, but these are universal metaphysical doctrines that are similar and essentially united not because of extensive "borrowing", but because they are true and were passed down by God. The fact of the matter is that "passive perfection" can never really be "active perfection", and whenever this is attempted, in whatever degree of Universal Existence, the result will eventually be suffering (specifically applicable to beings with a capacity to experience such) and deformation (universal). 

Democracy, especially if indiscriminate and merely secular, will inevitably be a more or less catastrophic affair, even if the consequential forces of dissolution may not be perceived until it is too late. For he who cannot perceive them now, I must urge some serious consideration. I know that this goes against many "American dreams" and a lot of "hope" that people may have invested in this world, but the good news is that there are, in addition to the corporeal, actual psychic and spiritual realities that are more ontologically fundamental (a

Practical Philosophy » Is Christianity compatible with nationalism? » 5/13/2018 7:04 pm

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seigneur wrote:

FZM wrote:

seigneur wrote:


Yes, there may be, if you look for issues very hard. The fact remains that Poland is among the most homogenous nations in the world. As is Lithuania, Slovakia, Czech, and most of the other countries in that region. Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians in Poland's history do not add any significant variety, because they are linguistically related and racially indistinguishable.

​My point was that the homogeneity of Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Lithuania etc. is a relatively recent phenomena, post 1918 and post 1945 and that it is something that has been consciously engineered. (Find all the linguistically and culturally homogenous nation states existing in the area of present day Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Czech and Slovak Republics, Ukraine etc. on a 1917 map.)  Incidentally Marxists 
played a prominent role in engineering it. 


 

Good point, but tendentious and irrelevant to my point (because every point is in a wider context to have relevance). Poles have been in what's now Poland (named Poland for a millennium at least) for as long as human memory and historical record goes. Did Marxists engineer it to be this way? In comparison, current so-called Americans are recent immigrants and they'd do well to be aware of this.

ETA: To make it very clear what my point was, if you missed it: There are objective characteristics to determine a country's nation-state-ness from "pure" to "diverse", the characteristics being linguistic, racial, and historical at least. By these measures, USA and Poland are very different. You say Poland is somewhat mixed too. The answer: Of course there is a foreigner in every country and when you go far enough in history, it was inhabited by different people, but when we get back to my point, which was to compare USA and Poland, then USA is far more diverse, its timeline is significantly shorter and its history is a story of mass extermination of natives

Practical Philosophy » Is Christianity compatible with nationalism? » 5/13/2018 6:47 pm

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Miguel wrote:

Clinias wrote:

"For Adrian Hastings (1997), the very act of translating the Bible into the vernacular turned the reading public into a 'chosen people'. By allowing translation of Sacred Texts from Hebrew/Greek into the vernacular, Christianity encouraged the development of ethnicities and pre-modern nations. It also endowed the latter with a new sense of sacredness attached to their collective identities by supplying a ready-made sense of God-sent chosenness. Even in a secular world, the most powerful election myth remains a Biblical one: ....

Firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian values, nationalism then spread outside Christianity in the wake of colonialism. It is through the mirror of the Bible which nations are initially conceived: 'The Bible provided… the original model of the nation. Without it and its Christian interpretation and implementation, it is arguable that nations and nationalism, as we know them, could never have existed…' (Hastings 1997: 4). In particular, the role of territory is comparable to that of biblical Israel (see also Grosby 1995). The concept of a Holy Land has been passed on to all significant nationalist movements, either civically or ethnically based.  (Ref: Nationalism and Ethnosymbolism: History, Culture and Ethnicity in the Formation of Nations. Contributors: Athena S. Leoussi - Editor, Steven Grosby - Editor. Publisher: Edinburgh University Press. Place of publication: Edinburgh. Publication year: 2007. Page number: 20)

Utterly fascinating. No telling what one finds when doing research. Here all sorts of people claiming that Christianity is incompatible with nationalism---and lo and behold, a researcher surmises that it was the Bible and Christianity in the vernacular that created nationalism!  Wow. 

 
Isn't that tragic, however? The whole point of the Christendom was that people were first members of the Christian faith; national and ethnic affiliation were only of sec

Practical Philosophy » Is Christianity compatible with nationalism? » 5/13/2018 6:39 pm

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Dry and Uninspired wrote:

If Anthony D. Smith is correct, the ‘core doctrine’ of nationalism consists of the following:

1. humanity is divided into nations, each with its own character, history and destiny;
2. the nation is the sole source of political power;
3. loyalty to the nation takes precedence over other loyalties;
4. to be free, human beings must belong to a nation;
5. nations require maximum autonomy and self-expression;
6. global peace and justice can only be built on the basis of a plurality
of free nations.

It would seem to me that at least 3 is highly problematic for a Christian. Possibly some of the others as well.

What do you think?

I agree that 3 is out of the question and leads to idolatry of the State, perhaps the deepest and most insidious and dangerous belief that fueled and exasperated all the other evils and crimes of communist and fascist states. The state is more of a means of service to the people and community of peoples/nations than an end in itself.

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