Religion » What About Catholicism? » 10/11/2018 11:15 pm |
Charlie,
You might find some of the Reformation disputes over the "rule of faith" interesting. Catholics tend to be massively overrepresented on here, to the point that a lot of protestants' arguments get completely ignored (e.g. Calvin's point about circularity arising from the Church deriving its authority from certain passages in the bible). I know we have protestant members, but they seem to have been cowed into silence.
My own view is that the dispute over the "rule of faith" amounts to variations on the old Pyrrhonian problem of the criterion and that neither Catholic nor protestant, ultimately, succeeds in blocking every argument against them.
Religion » What About Catholicism? » 10/11/2018 10:58 pm |
119,
Has anyone actually bothered to reply to any of your posts like this on here, or do people pretty much just ignore them and keep on as if they didn't exist? Haha.
Chit-Chat » Should we update to new forum software? » 10/11/2018 10:54 pm |
Alright. I'll hold you to that if we start getting threads about secret Jewish overlords, or the superiority of x race to all others, or whatever. It has never been the purpose of this forum to host those kinds of conversations and, more personally, I have no interest in being part of a forum where people have them.
Chit-Chat » Should we update to new forum software? » 10/10/2018 11:10 pm |
We've looked over vBulletin's documents, and it should be fine as long as we actually enforce our rules.
I have to ask, though: Do we really need some of these rules? I understand that, as a classical theism forum, we have to safeguard the freedom to speak of controversial topics dear to classical theists part of traditional religions (most classical theists). But do we really need the line about it being okay to talk about certain racial characteristics? I mean, that's not exactly philosophically substantive stuff. . .
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/07/2018 12:28 am |
Calhoun wrote:
Don't know what we can deduce from all those fields. Maybe ~PSR is majority view but can't really tell about the trend. could be that after Leibniz's time, once PSR was getting less and less popular and now its the opposite.
This is just a guess, to be taken with a heavy pinch of salt, but I think there has probably been a bump, a small increase, in the number of people who believe the PSR thanks to the increased popularity of natural theology in the last few decades. (I still suspect that the overall trend is downward or, if not, only not downward because they've pretty much bottomed out.)
Plus it seems lots of hypothesis in these fields are questioned because of concern which relate to psr.
Yeah. I should be clear that I'm not saying that people in these fields are rejecting the PSR for good reasons or without self-inconsistencies. Whether or not there are good reasons for rejecting (or at least questioning) the PSR, I think most of them have bad reasons. (I sort of want to write some really grouchy comments about dogmatic naturalism in ontology, but I'll stop here.)
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/06/2018 11:58 pm |
Calhoun wrote:
I don't know if PSR is getting more and more or less or less popular , there doesn't seem to be any data on this but I have seen it getting defense from secular philosophers and in non theistic context in recent times.
"What are your sources John?"
I'm basing my comment on what's in major philosophers from Leibniz onwards' works. (I think that more recently, in ontology at least, the vast majority of philosophers take it for granted that the PSR can be shucked aside. I'm guessing that the situation in philosophy of science, ethics, and so on, is worse. I'm not sure about philosophy of religion, where atheist philosophers are probably more likely to have the principle forced on them by theists running cosmological arguments.)
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/06/2018 7:53 pm |
Ed once called the New Atheists “Nietzsche's Last Man in rationalist drag”.
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/06/2018 7:45 pm |
RomanJoe wrote:
honestly couldn't give a solid reason which is why I prefaced it as something I would "like" to happen.
Ah, okay. I thought you meant “I like to think” in more of a “I like to think people would have the good sense to listen to reason and. . .” kind of way.
Why do you think PSR has taken such a beating in the past two centuries?
Superficially, a lot of people admit brute facts because they're naturalists.* Armstrong and David Lewis, for example, are both totally explicit about this when starting their systems. Less superficially, I think you might be able to explain some of this in terms of Hume and early analytic philosophers' influence (see Daniel's discussion of analytic philosophers and modal notions here).
I've seen some scholastic authors suggest that people have moved away from the PSR as a result of their moving away from an intellectualist God, but even voluntarists might be able to affirm the PSR if they're willing to go as far as some contemporary authors and, for example, embrace the idea that free choices (in the libertarian sense) are explanations. I don't know much about the history of the PSR, though.
*N. B. I consider naturalism, the thesis that only spacetime and its contents exist, and atheism, the thesis that God doesn't exist, distinct. I also consider naturalism and physicalism, the thesis that everything obeys the laws of physics, distinct.
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/05/2018 11:04 pm |
I also like to think that a century from now philosophers will look at brute facts and nominalism and ask themselves "what the hell was going on there?"
I would be interested in learning why you think this. I'll have to, in spite of my natural aversion to it, write a blog article defending blob nominalism some time after November. But with brute facts, it helps to take a step back from the theist community and have a look: the PSR has been becoming less and less, not more and more, popular over the last two hundred years. I don't see any sign of a grand revival of belief in it.
Chit-Chat » What will be cast into the metaphysical waste bin in the near future? » 10/05/2018 10:57 pm |
It depends on what you mean by "cast into the metaphysical waste bin". The history of philosophy, if it shows us anything, shows us that disputes over philosophical issues tend to not get decided, though everyone living may take one or another attitude towards those issues for long stretches of time.