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Religion » Relationship with God » 4/28/2017 3:28 pm

nojoum
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To me it seems that the major goal of Christianity and Islam (and I also speculate Judaism) is to teach and ask people to love others as they love themselves. Moreover, even if we don't believe in God's existence, if people simply follow this commandment the world would be much better. Then if this is so what is the point of pursuing God and having a relationship with him?
Especially given the fact, if any God is to be worthy of following, he should be valuing that major commandment (Love). In this way, even if we don't believe in God but still follow the major commandment (Love) then we should not be even worried of going to hell. So then why should one go after knowing God? Why shouldn't one just reduce religion to an attempt of refining people's character; to make them more affectionate and kind?

Theoretical Philosophy » On certainty » 4/28/2017 3:02 pm

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I would like to ask is there anything that we can claim to know with 100% certainty?
If not, then what is the point of doing philosophy? To me, it seems a big failure for philosophy not being able to give answers with full assurance.

Practical Philosophy » Goal of studying theoretical philosophy » 3/25/2017 3:51 pm

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Proclus wrote:

Here is a fun rearrangement of letters:  Pilate asked "Quid est veritas?"  The tacit answer staring him in the face is "est vir qui adest."

A true sentence is one in which the contents correspond with reality.  Specifically, the relation between the subject and the predicate of the sentence bears an analogical relation to the relation between an object in the world and a some real feature of that object.  Or paraphrasing Aristotle, speaking true sentences happens when we say about what is that it is or about what is not that it is not, and speaking false sentences happens when we say about what is that it is not or about what is not that it is (Metaphysics 1011b).

Truth is to "true" what Beauty is to "beautiful," in other words, the Truth is that in virtue of which true things are true.  Ultimately, I think that this is Jesus Christ the λόγος of God, in virtue of whom (1) there is a world at all, (2) the structure of that world is intelligible, and (3) a correspondence can exist between our thought and the intelligible structure of that world.  (Incidentally, Νοῦς plays something like this role in Plato and Aristotle.)  At a lower level of analysis, knowing the truth can mean latching onto even a corner of his robe, i.e. achieving even a partial coincidence between our thought and the intelligibility of the world.  And at a still lower level, a correspondence between what we say about the world and the way the world is.

Thanks.

I somehow get the feeling that you want to have knowledge of everything. This brings me to another point that such a task is impossible to do and you have to narrow your inquiry. So then what would your inquiry and its goal be?

Practical Philosophy » Goal of studying theoretical philosophy » 3/25/2017 2:12 pm

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Proclus wrote:

For my part, I pursue theoretical philosophy as an act of obedience to the particular call of God upon my life.  I see myself as one organ within the total body of Christ, part of whose function it is to pursue the truth in as disciplined a fashion as possible and transmit the truth thus learned together with its justification to the rest of the body.  I also find it fun, but I see this as merely one signal among others that this is indeed the call of God, i.e. a sign that he made me for this in the way that the racehorse's love for the race is a sign that he was bred for this activity.

Thank you for your response.

Could you please clarify what is meant by truth?
Truthfulness of God's existence, Christianity and its teachings? The truth regarding natural world? Truth regarding politics, economy and so on?

Practical Philosophy » Goal of studying theoretical philosophy » 3/25/2017 2:06 pm

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Greg wrote:

Well, I have been more interested in practical philosophy recently. So part of my interest in theoretical philosophy is that it sometimes bears on practical philosophy.

Strictly speaking, according to the way I understand the division between theoretical and practical philosophy, this would make my study of theoretical philosophy in fact a study of practical philosophy. I follow Aristotle, that is, in holding that the theoretical and practical intellects are the same power; the one is intellect directed to contemplation, the other is the intellect directed to action. Practical knowledge is knowledge about singulars in action. But other truths are practical in a certain respect if they are or can be used in practice.

So throughout the Ethics, Aristotle will mention 'theoretical' points about how the virtues are defined, etc., and note that these too are included in ethics and politics. But he is also constantly saying that we need not inquire into certain matters further, as far as action is concerned.

Realistically, though, prior to engaging in theoretical inquiry, we do not know which theoretical truths are useful for ethics.

But I think another option that is not listed is the most classical one (albeit close to (1)): theoretical philosophy is worth doing simply for the sake of contemplation. This activity is enjoyable but enjoyment is its result, not its purpose.

Another option, which I suppose is not too common among members of this forum, is quietism, of the sort defended (advocated?) by Wittgenstein and McDowell: The point of philosophy is to convince yourself that there are no true philosophical problems. Such philosophy is also called therapeutic.

Naturally this blurs theoretical and practical philosophy.

Thank you for your responses Greg.

I have not heard about quietism or therapeutic philosophy. I will try to look at it and see what it means.

Practical Philosophy » Goal of studying theoretical philosophy » 3/24/2017 3:13 pm

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Hello Everyone,

I wanted to ask you the reason that you would like to study theoretical philosophy.
These are some of the motivations that I can think of, but I also want to hear your thoughts on this matter.

1. I study theoretical philosophy as a hobby because I enjoy exercising and improving my power of reasoning.
2. I study theoretical philosophy to have a better understanding of the natural world.
3. I study theoretical philosophy to improve my ability to assess the soundness of arguments. For example when watching political, economical debates, when having general arguments with other people or when making decisions regarding my personal life and so on.
4. I study theoretical philosophy so I can justify my belief in God and maybe ultimately convince others that God exist. The reason to have such a goal is that a lack of belief in God's existence and ultimately a certain religion is a major cause of today's world's problems (war, famine, poverty and so on). Furthermore, assuming God exist, a lack of belief in God will result in going to hell.

Thank you for your responses.



 

Theoretical Philosophy » Earth is not a Spaceship: End of the line with modern cosmology » 7/20/2016 5:50 pm

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Just one small note. The inward force, the weight and all of these are not easy concepts to grasp. I studied these in high school. It took me great efforts to understand these. I think for this weight loss problem, I thought for about 1 hour or something when I was given this problem in high school. Consider that I was familiar with the physics, formulas and so on and I had seen similar problems but still it was hard to get my head around these subjects.

So it is not wrong to ask even the simplest question. The thing that I did not find justifiable is to claim that physics is wrong and scientist are wrong about it and so on. I'm not saying to trust completely in authority. All I want to say is that, study enough and then question what is being taught in universities and books.

And I would say physics is much better than philosophy. You have Feser on one hand who is catholic, you have Craig who is protestant. They are both major figures of defending Christian faith but you can see that you cannot simply trust them.

Theoretical Philosophy » Earth is not a Spaceship: End of the line with modern cosmology » 7/20/2016 5:43 pm

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The reason that you find the same percentage of weight loss is that you are calculating the relative change in weight.

So basically your weight is equal to m(mass)*g (gravity acceleration)

now the inward force to keep you in the circle is equal to mass*(V^2)/r

So as you can see both forces are proportional to mass. So while the absolute forces are different for different masses, the relative change in weight which is the inward force divided by your weight would be independent of your mass.

Practical Philosophy » Natural Law and perverted faculty argument » 7/20/2016 4:07 pm

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Greg wrote:

nojoum wrote:

Regarding intention: to me sterile couple can only have sex for the purpose of unity. Now it does not follow from perverted faculty argument that they are doing immoral actions. It follows from common sense that sterile couples having sex are sinning as much as healthy people having protected sex are sinning. The reason is that this condemnation is based on the intention of these people which is the same in both cases.

Now the problem with the perverted faculty argument is that it does not take into account the intention of people. So to me an improved version of perverted faculty argument should also say that people who have the intention of perverting a faculty (yet are not perverting it explicitly, like sterile couples having sex) are committing immoral actions.

I'm not sure that this follows from "common sense," and I'm certainly not sure what would count as common sense in sexual ethics.

People using contraception generally intend to avoid having children; the exceptions to this are cases where, say, an anovulent pill is taken for health reasons, in which case the anovulent pill is consumed neither qua anovulent nor qua contraceptive. Sterile couples simply need have no such intention; a sterile couple can be open to have children in the sense that they do not intend not to have children. And one might think that is a morally relevant distinction, if one thinks that openness to children is a requirement of proper conjugality.

On the other hand, a sterile couple could be engaging in contraception; for example, if a particularly scrupulous Catholic sought out an infertile person to marry, because he wanted to avoid having children, he might be engaging in contraception when he has sex after marriage. This would require, I think, some continuing commitment to the intention; I think it is possible for someone who gets and cannot reverse a vasectomy to engage in non-contracepted sex if (after a r

Theoretical Philosophy » Earth is not a Spaceship: End of the line with modern cosmology » 7/20/2016 3:45 pm

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Timocrates wrote:

Quora wrote:

Let's pretend we have Superman's microscopic vision and can see every molecule in the atmosphere.  We'd see something like this:
...
We would see a chaotic scene...

But nature abhors chaos. Things tend to a state of rest or equilibrium/balance. Right off the bat I am having issues with this authority, that they could seriously entertain the idea that the atmosphere is really chaotic. That speaks to me of ignorance: few specialists ever see chaos in whatever aspect of nature they study. I mean a decent meteorologist should take issue with his statement that the atmosphere is chaotic. We can generally gauge and predict, e.g., the weather for a reason. It is not in a state of chaos at all. We can predict how things will behave for a reason.

Quora wrote:

Most of our atmosphere (about 78%) is nitrogen.  At 25 degrees Celsius (77 F), nitrogen molecules have an average velocity of about 511 m/s (1676 ft/s).

What? Okay anyone can play this game, but let's expose how the author of this article is setting us up. Notice that he had to say "average" there. What is the velocity of nitrogen at 25 C on, say, Mars or the Moon? Different than the average here, of course. And in "outer space"? Different again. But why? Largely owing to the relevant pressures being generated or exerted, which absolutely cannot be ignored when determining how a thing might move in any given situation. Again, the less resistance available to a thing will alter its speed. Ceteris paribus, a bowling ball with velocity X upon entering air from a thicker medium will retain or gain velocity; upon entering a thicker medium, lose velocity. The author knows this full well. This is just a magician's sleight of hand and he is just setting up the necessary (false) assumptions to make his subsequent model "work." Heat, furthermore, needs a physical medium through which to be transferred; but because space is supposed to be an almost complete void, the theory

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