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Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/04/2015 2:10 pm

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Thanks for the responses gentlemen. I'm liking the discussion here. Please give me a while to assimilate everything that's been said. I hope to give you a further response in the near future.

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/02/2015 11:13 pm

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Can't something that doesn't exist have a potency to exist?

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/02/2015 9:26 pm

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Scott wrote:

I apologize in advance for what will inevitably be delayed responses.

Thanks, I understand.

truthseeker wrote:

Could you give me an example of an x satisfying the following propositions?

Scott wrote:

Not without a better sense of what you mean by "metaphysically possible..."

By 'metaphysically possible' I understand 'does not contradict the combination of the principles of metaphysics, the axioms of logic and the definitions of terms.' I should define some other kinds of possibility for the ensuing discussion. By 'logically possible' in the narrow sense I understand 'does not contradict the axioms of logic.' By 'logically possible' in the broad sense I understand 'does not contradict the combination of the axioms of logic and the definitions of terms.' By 'nomologically possible' I understand 'does not contradict the combination of the laws of nature, the principles of metaphysics, the axioms of logic and the definitions of terms.' By 'practically possible relative to some circumstance C,' I understand 'does not contradict the combination of the principles of metaphysics, the axioms of logic, the definitions of terms, the laws of nature, and circumstance C.'

John West wrote:

...[Consider] an ice cube on some planet no living entity will ever go near. The ice cube has the potentiality to be melted, but it's declared by divine fiat that the ice cube will never be melted – space is dead, and cold, so the ice cube will never be in circumstances where it would melt. So, it's impossible for the ice cube to be melted even though it has the potentiality to be melted.

I would say that it's practically impossible for the ice cube to be melted relative to the circumstances, but metaphysically possible for the ice cube to be melted.

John West wrote:

1. It is metaphysically possible for [ice] to be [cold].
2. [Ice] has no potency for being [cold] (because it's actually cold).

Then I understand 'x has a

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/02/2015 12:14 am

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Scott wrote:

A "possibility" is just something that could be the case (i.e. it's without contradiction)...

I suspect that by 'possibility' you mean what I would mean by 'logical possibility.' I meant something else by 'metaphysical possibility.' Please tell me if I need to clarify what I meant by 'metaphysical possibility.' I hesitate to put forward my own definition of the notion, but if it's tolerably clear what I meant then we can continue our discussion.

Scott wrote:

A potency isn't a bare possibility, even a metaphysical one...

Could you give an example of an x satisfying the following propositions?

1. It is metaphysically possible for x to be F.
2. x has no potency for being (or what I take to be equivalent formulations, x isn't potentially F, x isn't F in potentia, etc.).

 

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/01/2015 9:13 pm

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Let's start with act and potency. I understand these concepts as equivalent to actuality and possibility. So 'the ball is blue in actu' is equivalent to 'the ball is blue,' and 'the ball is blue in potentia' is equivalent to 'it is possibly the case that the ball is blue' (with 'possibly' being used in the metaphysical sense rather than, say, the epistemic sense). Furthermore, 'the man is in actu' is equivalent to 'the man exists,' and 'the man is in potentia' is equivalent to 'it is possibly the case that the man exists.' Am I making any error?

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/01/2015 8:38 pm

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Thanks for the responses. I posted my topic in 'Introductions' because I have multiple questions, and I was going to ask them in seperate topics with this topic as an introduction to them. I could keep my questions in this thread though.

I read parts of Last SuperstitionAquinas and Introduction to Scholastic Metaphysics over the last three years. I mainly focused on the argument for God's existence from act and potency, which I couldn't follow. So I'll ask my questions in the order that they arise in Feser's development of the argument. 

Theoretical Philosophy » Seeking Clarification of Feser's Philosophy » 7/01/2015 6:10 pm

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Greetings. I have an interest in Feser's philosophical writings, but I don't understand his arguments well enough to evalutate them. I hope that I can get some clarification on these forums.

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