Theoretical Philosophy » On certainty » 5/01/2017 3:49 pm |
Just because you found something subjectively difficult does not actually mean that there was a problem with an argument.
I have seen students of Calculus insist that the whole thing doesn't make any sense and doesn't prove anything just because they found it difficult. One of my own students insisted to me that modus tollens was invalid because it didn't make sense to her.
I think the popular conception of how much consensus there is in science and how little consensus there is in philosophy is deeply misleading. As a matter of fact there are widespread divisions over fundamental questions in science. GUT has been famously elusive. On the other hand, there is a lot more consensus in philosophy than might first appear to be the case simply because philosophy typically proceeds by laying out all the views regardless of the real percentages of people who believe them. For example, I don't know anyone professionally who disagrees with the law of noncontradiction. David Lewis is famous for being one of a vanishingly small percentage of philosophers willing to embrace modal realism. I could go on and on.
If we are going with subjective level of certainty as a kind of confidence level, I am more certain that God exists than that electrons really are the way they are described in my physics textbook.
Theoretical Philosophy » Presuppositionalism and Van Til's philosophy » 5/01/2017 3:35 pm |
So I started to formulate a response and halfway through the first sentence convinced myself that I have no idea either.
Speaking for myself, I think that all dialogue requires a commitment to the link between λόγος in us (both in thought and in speech) and λόγος in the world. Ultimately, this depends on the Λόγος as the ground of these many λόγοι. As the ground of being, I think we can show that this Λόγος is God yet is also the Λόγος of God. Only Trinitarianism (and a fortiori only Christianity) makes sense of this.
I'm not sure where I stand on Greg's claim that coercive evidence would preclude faith since I tend to think of faith in personalist terms, so I'm not sure what I think the force of this line of thought is. Nevertheless, this is essentially the line that I think runs from "We're having a conversation right now" to "So therefore Jesus Christ is Lord."
Religion » Relationship with God » 5/01/2017 3:21 pm |
I would echo what Jason and Alexander said. Love God is the first commandment and love your neighbor is the second.
Ultimately, we are for God as the ground and source of all things. He is the center of the whole, the ultimate purpose behind all purposes, the Good itself. So asking, "what is the point of loving God?" is a little like asking "What is the point of the point?"
I will also say that I am highly skeptical of claims that the world is made "a better place" by this or that initiative. Human beings are very complicated and pushing on one place has unforeseen ramifications in another place. It may appear at first that it is obvious that the would would be made a better place if we just emphasized "love one another," but I have watched as other teachings which seem to be obviously good have deeply negative consequences. I suspect that detaching the teaching that we are to love one another from any teaching about a relationship with God, the forgiveness of Christ, the necessity of loving others in a particular way rather than whatever we feel like etc. will actually make the world a worse place.
For example, suppose that I am a pastor who teaches love love love every Sunday and nothing else. Now suppose that I have a member of my congregation who tries really hard to do this but has various old habits and selfish pieces of his psychology. Ultimately, he becomes extremely frustrated in his inability to love well. Has my teaching helped? I'm doubtful. In fact, I've been to congregations that do more or less what you are suggesting and I think they were far less loving places than the places I have been that preach orthodox Christianity.
If you want some unsolicited advice, I think the attempt to have a relationship with God on your own is extremely difficult if not impossible. Seek out the best priest or pastor you can find and become a faithful member of a religious community. Ongoing relationship with God r
Theoretical Philosophy » Presuppositionalism and Van Til's philosophy » 5/01/2017 2:42 pm |
I admit that I haven't read anything by Van Til, but I had some friends at one point that were into this kind of thing. I took the idea to be rather similar to MacIntyre's in Whose Justice? Which Rationality?: simply that there is no getting outside intellectual tradition in evaluating competing ultimate claims to truth and ways of looking at the world, but this does not mean that we have no means of evaluating competing traditions because we find ourselves already engaged in dialogue. Said another way, there is no way to evaluate worldviews in a worldview-neutral way, but we can still see that some worldviews make better sense of the world than others. (Like Greg, I think that so far we are at the level of truism, albeit a relatively interesting one.)
When I have talked to these friends about the incoherence point you mentioned, the answer I got was that Van Til is talking about incoherence within the space of debate and dialogue. The very act of engaging in conversation about the truth or falsehood of Christianity makes some positions dialalogically untenable (e.g. that there is no such thing as truth). I take the idea to be similar to the Socratic elenchus. There is, of course, nothing Socrates can really do to make Euthyphro stay and finish the conversation, much less agree with him, but he can push on the awkwardness of Euthyphro saying one thing and then saying the opposite. The characteristic step of Van Til and his followers is to hold that ultimately, if we keep on pressing the conversation, Christianity is the only conversationally tenable ground for the conversation itself and that either we have been tacitly presupposing the main lines of Christianity all along or we have somehow been acting in bad faith by the very act of having the conversation.
I take the point of saying "presupposition," instead of just "supposition" or "belief," to be an emphasis on what Michael Polanyi calls the "tacit dimension," that is the thick ba
Chit-Chat » Dissertation Defense » 4/17/2017 8:54 pm |
I just wanted to share the news with this wonderful community that I just successfully defended my doctoral dissertation.
Practical Philosophy » Ethics of this scenario » 4/10/2017 2:48 pm |
^ I'm not so sure about the last part, Alexander. I have thought and taught just what you said, but I am beginning to think that indulging in those kinds of thoughts, especially repeatedly, only reinforces vicious psychological dynamics. If I think that X is a vicious thing to think, I should never cease the struggle against admitting X into my heart, even in prayer. This would be distinct from confessing the temptation or tendency to think X.
@AKG I'm not sure what to think. We have the evidence of the imprecatory psalms, but this is interpretively thorny. I think it would be much safer to admit in humility that we are not in a position to judge the state of another person's heart or whether or not the world would be better off with that person suffering some misfortune. Simply leave such judgments to God. (I freely confess that I frequently fall short of this standard.)
Theoretical Philosophy » Rational intellect question » 4/07/2017 3:00 pm |
It might help to ask your friend, then, what he means by "rationality." In my experience, most people who hold views like what you describe think of "rationality" simply as thinking or problem solving, which animals clearly do and which easily can be thought to come in degrees. This is very different than what Aristotelians mean when they say that humans are the only rational animals. Book I of the Politics is a good place to start where Aristotle compares humans to other gregarious animals that communicate, such as bees. What humans have that bees don't is not communication but "speech," that is the ability to abstract the λόγος of things, think about them at this higher-order level, and communicate those thoughts to others. Dogs obviously cannot do this. Dogs communicate, but they do not signify.
Theoretical Philosophy » Proclean henads and divinity » 4/04/2017 9:54 pm |
Might we allow for degrees of veneration?
Theoretical Philosophy » Proclean henads and divinity » 4/04/2017 9:49 pm |
*cough*
Chit-Chat » Atheist' Five ways ..? » 4/03/2017 4:35 pm |
#2 is definitely the most important to consider, although I consider a personalist argument from freedom to be a decisive response.
I agree with QED that #1 is not as serious as some people think it is. #3 is interesting, but God has never been very hidden in my life so...