Religion » What About Catholicism? » 10/05/2018 3:38 am |
Craig represents the Mere Christianity approach, proudly so. This approach looks for the least common denominator to include as much of Christendom as possible. Usually that ends up with too much.
A more consistent approach would be to determine what doctrines are fundamental and what are not in order to distinguish false teachers from true ones. While this is more in line with the scripture, it is extremely difficult to follow through in practice, because you need actual procedures to exclude pastors/denominations from the fold and a protocol for when they have been excluded.
And, all along, everybody will disagree on the actual list of the fundamentals. The list better be short so as to avoid complications, but when short, it will be rather trying for Christian patience to tolerate whatever is not on the list - because whatever is not on the list of the fundamentals is not fundamental and non-fundamental disagreements must be tolerated.
One aspect that makes Catholicism fundamentally problematic is that it overstretches the list of fundamentals (called dogmas), such as including the Marian dogmas and papal infallibility which have no foundation. This already makes it questionable what exactly catholics are worshipping and based on what or on whose authority.
Not sure if the Mere Christianity approach can detect that as a serious difference and yield a program on how to treat the difference. Simple Christianity and watered down Christianity are not the same. Watered down Christianity would not even be Christianity.
Craig's Christianity still is Christianity, but more of a philosophically informed kind, instead of scripturally inspired kind. Some day one might have to draw a sharper line between these two kinds too.
Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 2:22 am |
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
There's nothing unChristian about patriotism, unless it becomes a virulent nationalism. Patriotism is just love of your country and the belief it be protected.
In this case, I was responding to a belief that someone's country has enemies and is under attack from the inside (by liberals or whatever other politically loaded curse word one might use). It was clearly virulent ideological bias. And since that's evidently permissible, let's carry on in the same manner.
Chit-Chat » Just an observation: More inflammatory politics » 10/05/2018 2:17 am |
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
Have you ever heard of loaded questions?
Yes, I have. In this case, the whole text (behind the link) is heavily loaded with ideological bias, not just the questions in it. The writer either does not know or does not care what journalism is, how it operates and why.
The writer thinks that everybody (except himself) is a dummy who unquestioningly accepts everything in newspapers, instead of reading for reference and checking the sources provided in the articles, if the news is important to the reader. And this is just a small part of the writer's problem.
Chit-Chat » Just an observation: More inflammatory politics » 10/04/2018 4:13 pm |
Has anybody else noticed how pro-Trumpism attracts pro-Putinism like a magnet? For example here
And have you found yourself thinking that all those violent shots at "corporate/elite media", even when coupled with thin slogans for free speech, are actually calls to divest the last remaining semblance of free speech?
Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/04/2018 4:05 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
I used to debate everyone I knew about Trump (in my Orthodox Jewish community everyone voted Trump, and even those who didn't lied and said they did). Almost everyone I know who voted for Trump did so despite their distaste of his character because they saw their first amendment rights under attack. I don't know or care what the fancy think tanks say, on my lived day to day experience people voted for Trump because they were (and are) afraid of what liberals would do to their free speech and freedom of religion.
So everybody you know was easily manipulated into panic mode and they voted against a perceived threat, instead of standing firm in character? Sorry, but sounds like something a bunch of liberals would do...
Etzelnik wrote:
I quite frankly couldn't give a hoot if it's unchristian, being as I never was and never will be a Christian. It's a commonsense proposition: if a large segment of a country hates yours and wishes to wage war against you, then they're your enemies. It's simple as that. I follow the Talmudic dictum: He who comes to kill you, rise up and strike him first.
Under this commonsense proposition, your enemy is simply a mirror image of yourself.
Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/04/2018 3:29 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
Trump's ascendancy is an indicator of how desperate conservatives are to protect their increasingly at-risk liberties.
When the likes of Trump are in ascendancy, is it really out of desperation to protect liberties? Looks more like an attempt to avoid anarchy by establishing despotism instead.
And, broader, have you ever thought how un-Christian patriotism (of any country) is? Particularly militant patriotism, where you think of any foreign country as the enemy of your own country, as if the people of that foreign country (as opposed to govt) mattered less.
Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/04/2018 2:36 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
The liberals are to blame for what this country has become. They have sown the division which has given us Trump, and they continue headlong along that same disgusting path.
You mean Obama era led to Trump? How about W era led to Obama? And Reagan&Bush to Clinton?
Practical Philosophy » The naturalist narrative » 8/01/2018 1:09 am |
Ouros wrote:
Hello everyone.
You all certainly heard about the naturalist meta-narrative of history:
Our ancestors were a bunch of superstitious people who put supernatural being and substance beyond every natural phenomen. But with the progress of science/philosophy/whatever fields, we now know that it's false.
So, by extending this idea, we can be sure that everything that can't be explained in natural ways now, will be in some future.
What about that?
Is there some truth in that, or is it more like a distorted view of history?
Our ancestors were indeed superstitious, but not in the sense of only assuming supernatural being and substance beyond natural phenomenon. What these days is called supernatural, was part of natural order back then. There was no such difference or distinction between natural and supernatural as there is now.
As to the second sentence, with all the progress of science and philosophy, we do not know at all that the supernatural is false or not there. We know that there are undesirable aspects to superstitious attitude, yes, but shouldn't it be obvious that people are like that because it actually works? And there are people who are above it because that works too? So, these days we make a distinction between natural and supernatural, we have reoriented our metaphysical perspective - and, by and large, that's all we know. Who has shown that the supernatural is false or not there?
Since the second sentence is dubious, no point to extend or extrapolate it into a universality.
Chit-Chat » Books you want to read » 7/13/2018 1:09 am |
Essays on Catholicism, liberalism, and socialism: considered in their fundamental principles
(that's the title)
Practical Philosophy » What would be a good introductory book on economics for lay persons? » 7/07/2018 4:30 pm |
Miguel wrote:
A good introduction and summary of contemporary economics for lay people - not economics students.
Preferably impartial and uncontroversial. So, mainstream and orthodox leaning. No Austrian school or socialism or anything of this sort.
A while ago, I started the exact same quest myself. I found that there is no such thing as impartial uncontroversial economic mainstream. Or, to put it another way, the thing called mainstream in economics is a kind of ideological attitude, instead of a science.
I have confirmed this with a close friend of mine, who is a professional econometrician. He is ashamed of the state of economics as a science. His recommendation: Learn the basics of accounting and be suspicious of anything that deviates from this. When someone posits a "model" that has no connection to the basics of accounting, it's appropriate to ignore him.
The state of economics is comparable to what happened in philosophy: the fashionable mainstream used to be postmodernism in many universities, which is really a trend of art criticism, but it managed to pose as a school of philosophy for decades. In case of economics, it's been going on much longer without any proper challenge to the economists.
Edit: If your real aim is to get to know economics as actually practised, and not those boring principles of accounting (whose wider applications you would have to discover yourself with time-consuming individual work, likely arriving at something completely different than what economists are used to), then read the classics and the textbooks. None of this is uncontroversial or impartial, but that's how economics is.