Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 6:15 pm |
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
Well, anything concerning philosophy of mathematics belongs in the philosophy section, and anything concerning maths and pedagogy belongs in the education forum. If it more mathematics in itself that you wish to discuss, then, yes, that doesn't have a forum, though it will be fine in the philosophy forum for now. It may be possible to add a forum for maths and sciences. That was one I had in mind as eventually existing if there was demand. I don't think it, along with the human society forum, would be too many forums, but I can't see a need for many more.
I was genuinely just being sarcastic to make a point, Jeremy. I really don't expect there to be a mathematics forum, no matter how indebted contemporary philosophy is to mathematical logic.
I think we ought to keep things focussed adding new forums only when they're sufficiently justified, and if that means ultimately having fewer people then I'm fine with that. I have no interest in corporatizing.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 5:18 pm |
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
I think logic could be contained in the philosophy forum
Since my main interest in logic is mathematical, I'm not sure I agree. But I was actually just being sarcastic.
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Anyway, I look forward to some of those substantive, non-administrative threads that were mentioned.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 4:56 pm |
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
By the way, does anyone know if there is any member here didn't come here through Dr. Feser's blog? We are on the boadhost listing, but not google yet, so I doubt it, but would be interesting.
Yeah. There's one guy who just finished a degree with his philosophy classes primarily under Rondo Keele I invited, who signed up.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 4:54 pm |
Well, how much demand could there be with only 25 registers? If one person is enough, then let me put in my bid for a logic forum, which is at least as closely related to philosophy and classical theism as some of the extant forums.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 1:42 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
Perhaps you're right, but that's no way to market. We ought to show guests what will make them want to join: a wide range of organized intellectual pursuits.
Not too sure about that. A lot of these online marketing guys say the opposite: "Pick a niche and stick to it."
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 1:41 pm |
Scott wrote:
Well, here's me: I don't think we need any new subject headings; I think we need to get rid of some. I think the forum would be fine with "Philosophy," "Religion," and maybe a third catch-all heading for stuff that doesn't fit neatly into either, perhaps called "Stuff That Doesn't Fit Neatly Into Either."
(Or just "General." Or something.)
Maybe sub-categorize the rest under "General", or something.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 1:24 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
I think we can give pretty wide latitude within any given discussion. That's the nature of discussions. We ought to make a distinction though, between letting the Quaker spirit permeate a thread (
) and somebody actually starting a new thread in a fundamentally improper thread.
As long as it's somehow made sufficiently clear that people -- including people that aren't registered or guests right now to be able to read this -- know this is the case.
Incidentally, I don't think I've ever met a Quaker.
Etzelnik wrote:
Well, we can politely direct them to the right place then.
I guess. But it's so annoying when people keep doing that on other forums. Anyway, let's let some other people weigh in on all this.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 1:02 pm |
Etzelnik wrote:
To paraphrase iwpoe, I am willing to guarantee that the history section will have high quality content, even if I have to generate it my damn self.
To be clear, I'm just playing advocatus diaboli to make sure the addition is properly justified. What I've observed is that we started as the "Classical Theism, Philosophy, and Religion" forum, and are now the "Classical Theism, Philosophy, Religion, Classical Liberal Education, Arts and Literature, and Politics" forum discussing adding History.
I'm fine with operating along those lines in regards to politics, but it still remains an awkward super-imposition to view philosophy or religion in the same light. A discussion of, say, the effects of the Pelopponesian and Thirty Years wars on classical philosophy and religious tolerance respectively, cannot be truly described as a philosophical or religious discussion.
A similar but opposite problem is (for example) people worrying about posting substantive philosophical or religious comments related to a thread in History, or what have you, but hesitating because the forum has become so over-departmentalized that they worry it's off-topic.
Besides, the deliberate man ought to be able to discern for himself that appropriate section for his questions.
I know where to put my example post. You know where to put it. But one of the first reasons someone mentioned a separate forum was for precisely for people who are new to the philosophy and theology and wouldn't know where to put the post..
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 11:48 am |
I was going to add to my previous post, that I think a post on Sulla would fit nicely into the Politics forum. In the meantime, perhaps post it there. edit: I should add here, that I'm under the possibly outmoded impression that careful study of historical political figures and history in general is an important part of studying politics. I say outmoded, because I recognize that many people now tend to view it as primarily a study of current affairs; I'm just not sure if that's how it is among professional students of the field.
Etzelnik wrote:
We have a section for art and literature. We have a section for politics. We have a section for liberal education. Why not have one for history?
My suggestion was more along the lines that we alter or expand the title of one of the other sub-forums to include history, to avoid clutter.
Etzelnik wrote:
I can only speak for myself, but when I see a forum that is not properly ordered the first impression that comes to mind is slovenliness. That is not an impression we want to project.
Nor do we want to pounce on people simply because they asked a question about, say, the details of transubstantiation in the philosophy forum instead of the religion forum.
Chit-Chat » Suggesstions for the forums and issues for moderation. » 6/30/2015 10:51 am |
DanielCC wrote:
Good idea Etzelnik, an Historical Scholarship section does sound a useful addition – after all discussion of the greater cultural backdrop in which Classical and Scholastic thinkers moved is bound to crop and doesn't really fit into any of the pre-existing forums (of course the forum would cover more than just that). Providing no one has any objections to this shall it be brought to be?
Perhaps we can fold it into one of the pre-existing forums. Where the history can't be directly related to a philosophical or religious discussion, ought we to have a special place for discussing it? If it can be directly related to a philosophical or religious discussion, then we can simply include it one of those forums. I agree that historical context is important. On the other hand, Plato's beard.
Incidentally, I don't think we need to be too strict about who posts what in which forum. Clearly some organization is desirable. But does it really matter if someone posts a theological query in the philosophy section? So what if they do. It's a forum visited by people, not a filing cabinet.