Classical Theism, Philosophy, and Religion Forum / Poll: What are substances?

**Posted by John West** 9/27/2016 5:11 pm

A follow-up to my properties poll. Still trying to find out where everyone stands:

**Posted by iwpoe** 9/28/2016 6:40 am

Modified Aristotelian view: substances are unified imminentizing Form.

**Posted by John West** 9/30/2016 11:49 am

Both polls are still open.

**Posted by Dennis** 10/01/2016 9:53 am

I need more time to vote. To those who believe in the existence of bare/thin particulars, how do you establish their existence?

**Posted by John West** 10/02/2016 3:27 pm

Dennis wrote:
To those who believe in the existence of bare/thin particulars, how do you establish their existence?

To make a long story short, people posit thin particulars to solve the problem of individuation.

**Posted by seigneur** 10/03/2016 1:53 am

Other: Single continuum. (Spiritual monism)

**Posted by Dennis** 10/04/2016 10:21 am

Well, I take universals to be the substances of the world and that individuation is a matter of haeccitas (Other). I suppose I'm taking this to be a primitive, and I'm going to change my mind sooner rather than later. If this commits me to something like Bundle-theory for now, so be it, but that's my position (for now).

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**Posted by John West** 10/04/2016 10:52 am

Dennis wrote:
Well, I take universals to be the substances of the world and that individuation is a matter of haeccitas (Other). I suppose I'm taking this to be a primitive, and I'm going to change my mind sooner rather than later. If this commits me to something like Bundle-theory for now, so be it, but that's my position (for now).

I shall check you in the bare particulars row.

**Posted by 884heid** 10/04/2016 11:04 am

John West wrote:
I shall check you in the bare particulars row.

I thought I was going to be the only one who chooses bare particulars so this is a pleasant surprise.

**Posted by iwpoe** 10/04/2016 11:56 pm

seigneur wrote:
Other: Single continuum. (Spiritual monism)

Well, even Hegelians and Spinozists hold that the whole, or whatever is a substance in some sense. Since I'm tempted to monism I didn't want to bake-in a determination about plurality into my thought about substance.