Posted by RomanJoe  6/04/2017 8:44 pm | #1 |
"A potential can only be actualized by something already in act."
"Anything whose existence is really distinct from its essence depends on something else for its esse or existence."
Does quantum mechanics undermine these metaphysical principles? Can mere potential actualize itself?
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Posted by Jason 6/06/2017 11:28 am | #2 |
I was just recently looking into this subject and fell upon some works of Dr. Wolfgang Smith and his book
Quantum Enigma https://www.amazon.ca/Quantum-Enigma-Finding-Hidden-Key/dp/1597310077/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496764756&sr=8-2&keywords=quantum+enigma. I have just started that book but the basic idea is that the subatomic particles are in potency rather than in act and hence when an interaction happens that just actualizes its potential based on the kind of interaction / observations we are doing to it. He tends to think that the issue with Quantum Mechanics is due to the cartesian metaphysical premises and they could be easily solved by replacing them by thomistic ones.
My physics is elementary but I would love to learn more on this topic as well if there are other recommendations on it I would love to hear about them.
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Posted by RomanJoe 6/06/2017 12:42 pm | #3 |
Jason wrote:
I was just recently looking into this subject and fell upon some works of Dr. Wolfgang Smith and his book
Quantum Enigma https://www.amazon.ca/Quantum-Enigma-Finding-Hidden-Key/dp/1597310077/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496764756&sr=8-2&keywords=quantum+enigma. I have just started that book but the basic idea is that the subatomic particles are in potency rather than in act and hence when an interaction happens that just actualizes its potential based on the kind of interaction / observations we are doing to it. He tends to think that the issue with Quantum Mechanics is due to the cartesian metaphysical premises and they could be easily solved by replacing them by thomistic ones.
My physics is elementary but I would love to learn more on this topic as well if there are other recommendations on it I would love to hear about them.
Woah interesting book. Are you saying quantum mechanics may operate in a purely potential realm?
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Posted by Jason 6/06/2017 4:40 pm | #4 |
I was just recently looking into this subject and fell upon some works of Dr. Wolfgang Smith and his book
Quantum Enigma https://www.amazon.ca/Quantum-Enigma-Finding-Hidden-Key/dp/1597310077/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496764756&sr=8-2&keywords=quantum+enigma. I have just started that book but the basic idea is that the subatomic particles are in potency rather than in act and hence when an interaction happens that just actualizes its potential based on the kind of interaction / observations we are doing to it. He tends to think that the issue with Quantum Mechanics is due to the cartesian metaphysical premises and they could be easily solved by replacing them by thomistic ones.
My physics is elementary but I would love to learn more on this topic as well if there are other recommendations on it I would love to hear about them.Woah interesting book. Are you saying quantum mechanics may operate in a purely potential realm?
Yes as far as I understand it and as such subatomic particles do not have a substantial form they simply exist in what Decartes called res extensae. So the state vector collapses when the particles interacts with res cogitans and it takes on a substantial form based on the many potential states it can have.
I am still a newbie in this so please take my statement as such but here is another article that might help you as well http://www.thomist.org/jourl/1999/Jan%20A%20Smith.htm
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Posted by RomanJoe 6/06/2017 6:44 pm | #5 |
I was just recently looking into this subject and fell upon some works of Dr. Wolfgang Smith and his book
Quantum Enigma https://www.amazon.ca/Quantum-Enigma-Finding-Hidden-Key/dp/1597310077/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496764756&sr=8-2&keywords=quantum+enigma. I have just started that book but the basic idea is that the subatomic particles are in potency rather than in act and hence when an interaction happens that just actualizes its potential based on the kind of interaction / observations we are doing to it. He tends to think that the issue with Quantum Mechanics is due to the cartesian metaphysical premises and they could be easily solved by replacing them by thomistic ones.
My physics is elementary but I would love to learn more on this topic as well if there are other recommendations on it I would love to hear about them.Woah interesting book. Are you saying quantum mechanics may operate in a purely potential realm?
Yes as far as I understand it and as such subatomic particles do not have a substantial form they simply exist in what Decartes called res extensae. So the state vector collapses when the particles interacts with res cogitans and it takes on a substantial form based on the many potential states it can have.
I am still a newbie in this so please take my statement as such but here is another article that might help you as well http://www.thomist.org/jourl/1999/Jan%20A%20Smith.htm
Would this be admitting that a potential can actualize itself? Unless of course we could discover something already in act which actualizes the potential.
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Posted by Jason 6/07/2017 11:21 am | #6 |
Woah interesting book. Are you saying quantum mechanics may operate in a purely potential realm?Yes as far as I understand it and as such subatomic particles do not have a substantial form they simply exist in what Decartes called res extensae. So the state vector collapses when the particles interacts with res cogitans and it takes on a substantial form based on the many potential states it can have.
I am still a newbie in this so please take my statement as such but here is another article that might help you as well http://www.thomist.org/jourl/1999/Jan%20A%20Smith.htm
Would this be admitting that a potential can actualize itself? Unless of course we could discover something already in act which actualizes the potential.
No what I am saying is that the measurement equipment (res cogitans) is the one that transfer act to the particles. No matter how good your measurements are of an object they are just a part of that object that describe it and not its essence.
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Posted by Mysterious Brony 6/07/2017 7:02 pm | #7 |
Hi RomanJoe,
Maybe this blog post will help you: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2014/12/causality-and-radioactive-decay.html
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Posted by RomanJoe 6/07/2017 7:08 pm | #8 |
Yes as far as I understand it and as such subatomic particles do not have a substantial form they simply exist in what Decartes called res extensae. So the state vector collapses when the particles interacts with res cogitans and it takes on a substantial form based on the many potential states it can have.
I am still a newbie in this so please take my statement as such but here is another article that might help you as well http://www.thomist.org/jourl/1999/Jan%20A%20Smith.htm
Would this be admitting that a potential can actualize itself? Unless of course we could discover something already in act which actualizes the potential.
No what I am saying is that the measurement equipment (res cogitans) is the one that transfer act to the particles. No matter how good your measurements are of an object they are just a part of that object that describe it and not its essence.
Ah, okay.
