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Theoretical Philosophy » A simple argument for the personhood of the first cause, by Lonergan » 3/12/2018 12:12 pm

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I think it depends on the kind of explanation that is required to satisfy PSR.  If I ask for an explanation of a necessary state of affairs and you explain that this state of affairs follows necessarily from another necessary state of affairs, then it is not as though you have failed to provide an explanation.  Your idea that something is still left out seems to me to suppose that the explanandum is something we already understand to be valuable, meaningful, teleologically ordered etc.

Practical Philosophy » Are There Gender Specific Virtues? » 9/26/2017 2:00 pm

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Brian wrote:

I think to answer that question properly, you would need to answer the question, do the different genders have different ends or telos?   (I have no idea what the plural of telos is, sorry.)

Plural = teloi

We might take the politically and socially charged element out of the discussion to get a clearer view of the fundamentals.  Beyond the list of virtues that come from our common human nature which includes our common human telos, are there *any* other virtues that apply to narrower groups of people?  My instinct is to say yes.  There are certain dispositions of character that a computer programmer may have that makes him more successful as a computer programmer.

Chit-Chat » Dr. Craig criticizes the Thomist God (video) » 6/15/2017 5:21 pm

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BTW, I think it is worth noting that the "theistic personalism" that Hart and Feser are objecting to is very different from the "Christian personalism" that I have mentioned before in connection with JPII, Gabriel Marcel, and Dietrich von Hildebrand et al.

Chit-Chat » What are you reading right now? » 6/15/2017 4:49 pm

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I'm reading Russell Kirk's Conservative Mind, and the (quite extensive) reading packet for this year's Dietrich von Hildebrand Summer Seminar at Franciscan University at Steubenville (If any of y'all are going, I'll gladly share my pipe tobacco).

Chit-Chat » Poll: Is the proposition “God exists” true? » 6/15/2017 4:46 pm

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I voted for other along similar lines to Grace and Rust.  The proposition is true in a non-literal sense since God is the ground of Being.

Chit-Chat » Explaining Catholic teaching on sexuality » 5/28/2017 12:30 pm

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I'm not Roman Catholic, and this may not help with the rhetorical effectiveness part of your question, but I found JPII's Love and Responsibility to be an incredibly compelling philosophical account of Catholic sexual morality (which I 90% agree with despite not being Catholic myself).  Here is the edition I have and is a classic, although there is a new translation that I have heard is available.  Several of the basic arguments in this book can be made to speak to contemporary non-Catholics:

(1) I think many people today will find it compelling that one should not treat the other person in a sexual relationship as a mere tool to one's own end.  This basic Kantian point means that I cannot pursue sex merely as a way of receiving pleasure.

(2) Many people today will be sensitive to the idea that we are essentially embodied beings.  Our bodies are not something merely extrinsic to our true self (this mistake lies behind much of the transgender ideology), so therefore treating another person with love involves taking his or her embodied gender (and one's own) into account.  Thinking that you and I can love one another quite apart from our respective genders implies a kind of angelism.

(3) I think it is a fairly easy argument to make for people who are really worried about being "scientific" that reproduction must at least be a part of any adequate philosophy of sexuality.  The more we talk about reproduction, however, the less compelling many contemporary philosophies of sexuality become.

Religion » Okay, the resurrection is probably historical... » 5/28/2017 12:17 pm

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Alexander wrote:

For the crucial question of "Who is Jesus?":
It's definitely worth going through the way in which thinkers in the Church historically came to affirm increasingly strong and clear statements of Christology....When you see something of the process by which doctrine developed into what we have today, many apparently obscure and unjustified points tend to snap into place.

This.  I agree 100%

Religion » Okay, the resurrection is probably historical... » 5/27/2017 3:15 pm

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I just so happened to be reading Joseph Ratzinger's important essay "Concerning the Notion of Person in Theology," today and thought this point would reinforce the idea from Kinlaw: 

"...the Christological concept of person is an indication for theology of how person is to be understood as such" (p. 450).  In other words, if you want to understand personhood, you need to start with Christology, rather than the reverse procedure of starting with a philosophy of personhood in order to understand Christology.

Religion » Okay, the resurrection is probably historical... » 5/27/2017 2:08 pm

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It seems like over and over again in the gospels the writers call attention to the shortsightedness of the disciples at the time that Jesus foretells his death and resurrection.  This makes them look foolish, which would make it somewhat harder to believe that they merely invented these episodes ex post facto.

I was also chewing on this thread and some of your other threads earlier today.  One of the elements that you seem to be working on quite a bit is the personhood of God (analogically predicated, of course).  It may be that this attribute cannot be gotten from many of the classical arguments for the existence of God.  Many versions of the cosmological argument in particular only go so far.  I am sympathetic to an argument from the theologian Dennis Kinlaw in his book Let's Start with Jesus, that we would not know that God is personal apart from revelation, ultimately culminating in the revelation of who God is in the person of Jesus Christ.  It may be possible to establish his personhood in theory, but historically, our conviction that "he is a who" rather than merely "it is a what" comes from the various theophanies (e.g. to Abraham, Moses, Elijah, and ultimately in Jesus).  Kinlaw argues systematic theology is often conducted backwards, beginning with the classical arguments from natural theology, eventually establishing the possibility of revelation, and finally proceeding to a discussion of Jesus.  Instead, he claims, we should begin with the historical facticity of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and work our way outward from this central event thinking through the implications that this event holds for everything else.  You may find this book and this approach in general helpful.  (Or you may not; one never knows.)

Religion » Okay, the resurrection is probably historical... » 5/26/2017 8:35 am

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I think it matters that Jesus predicted the resurrection beforehand, it was prophesied beforehand, and his followers at the time universally saw the event as a vindication by the Father of Jesus's claims, including the claims that (i) Jesus is the messiah, (ii) Jesus is Lord and Judge of all, and (iii) Jesus is God.  (Of course the last took some time to work out the metaphysical details, but the claim is clearly throughout the NT.)

It may not be readily apparent why the rest of Christianity is logically necessitated by the truth of the resurrection (it isn't as simple as modus ponens, after all), but since all the bits and bobs of Christianity are a deeply interconnected web of thought, it becomes increasingly difficult to sustain intellectually a simultaneous affirmation of the resurrection and rejection of the rest.

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