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More demographics research:
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Ah, yes. The great John West caper. ![]()
(If anything, I was trying to avoid the carping over “atheism”, "agnosticism", “skepticism”, etc. that I usually see in these kinds of polls (alas, probably without success).)
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I think it's true, whether I have reasons that are demonstrative for that claim? Harder question.
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Out of curiosity, John, what did you vote for?
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I expected at least one other person to vote "Other."
Something like The proposition "God exists" is true only if by that we mean "God is Subsistent Being Itself.
Of course, I was thinking of how when we say something exists, we usually mean there is an instance of a species or genus, and God isn't an instance of any kind whatsoever, and that isn't strictly necessary anyhow.
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Grace and Rust wrote:
I expected at least one other person to vote "Other."
Something like The proposition "God exists" is true only if by that we mean "God is Subsistent Being Itself.
Of course, I was thinking of how when we say something exists, we usually mean there is an instance of a species or genus, and God isn't an instance of any kind whatsoever, and that isn't strictly necessary anyhow.
Man, you guys are paranoid. ![]()
Both beings and God exist, if we're willing to use “exist” analogically. Beings exist contingently and derivatively; God's existence is identical with his essence.
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Dennis wrote:
Out of curiosity, John, what did you vote for?
I voted for the third option. As far as I can tell, both theism and atheism are incoherent. (I'm happy to defend the thesis some time, if someone wants.)
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I voted for other along similar lines to Grace and Rust. The proposition is true in a non-literal sense since God is the ground of Being.
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Fair enough.
(For the record though, doctrine of analogy defenders would say the proposition is true in a sense that's literal, but analogical.)
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John West wrote:
I voted for the third option. As far as I can tell, both theism and atheism are incoherent. (I'm happy to defend the thesis some time, if someone wants.)
Inb4 John's a deist! Well, of course I'd love to know what you think there. Time to find nominee's with whom you'll be exchanging blows!