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Chit-Chat » I cannot find a way to insert line breaks within a code block. » 10/06/2018 3:03 am

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Such issues belong to the Test subforum - if we had one. Let's see how/if this forum software supports tt and pre.

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Chit-Chat » Should we update to new forum software? » 10/06/2018 2:41 am

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John West wrote:

vBulletin doesn't (or doesn't automatically, anyway) host vBulletin software. It won't be like boardhost where they host our forum because we're using their software.

 
That's nice (at least leaves you with more options).

I remembered one more point about the software: Please provide RSS feeds. As a minimum, I would like to see some 100 latest posts in full text.

Chit-Chat » Should we update to new forum software? » 10/05/2018 11:38 am

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Oh, I assumed that you (one of the admins) would be setting up your own server. No such luck, I guess.

Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 11:07 am

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FZM wrote:

... a lot of people [in Belarus and Russia] can be quite poor by Western standards and have lots of more prosaic problems with health, food, housing etc. which I guess is probably why LGBT issues don't attract that much attention. 

Yes, I have also noticed that LGBT (and so on) only becomes a pointed issue after society has accumulated luxuries beyond a certain level. At the subsistence level, subsistence is the issue and everything else is a non-issue; which makes for a rather decent life on the moral plane.

FZM wrote:

Corbyn's director of Communications was a member of the 'Stalin Society' (apparently dedicated to protecting Stalin's achievements from deviationist slander), has written in defence of Gulags and such, there is this stuff about how highly they think of chairman Mao, Enver Hoxha etc. They just keep it pretty quiet, so you may be right that they no longer explicitly acknowledge the influence of Marx, even if it is present.

Of course there are those familiar with Marx, even Marxist-Leninists from the 60's and 70's. But are they the stringpullers of, say, current LGBT activists? This LGBT thing is so rampant that it even spreads to churches like wildfire. Are the same-sex-happy pastors informed by Marx? Hardly.

We have a broader downfall of culture at hand. It's to do with the fact that to discipline one's own sexual member is very difficult regardless of the ideology, whether you are a conservative like Wolfowitzor a liberal like Strauss-Kahn.

Political ideology should be kept separate in matters like these. Just investigate the crime allegations.

Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 10:42 am

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Etzelnik wrote:

i just want to be laeft alone. that's what our constitution is for.

Okay, but how does this square with starting a thread titled Christine Blasey Ford is a liar? For now it looks like you are unable to just be by yourself. You seek out things to be passionately furious over as if it had something to do with you personally.

As to the topic itself, I agree with the following opinion:

If you share the same imperfect information as the rest of us, then the only correct response should be worry and wait. Worry that humanity can be so cruel and basely animalistic that neither the possibility of violent sexual assault nor of slanderous accusations can be immediately dismissed. Wait to see what evidence appears before choosing what to believe. Your beliefs about the matter are every bit as worthless now as they were before the name Brett Kavanaugh was tied to a SCOTUS nomination.

[...] The political and media circus has completely enveloped events at this point, and the court of public opinion has little more than party bias to work with.

Religion » Looking for a Book on Death » 10/05/2018 7:45 am

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Dion Fortune's Book of the Dead https://www.amazon.com/Dion-Fortunes-Book-Dead-Fortune/dp/1578633362

Maybe you don't like the mysticism there, but some academic approach would provide no insight on this topic imho. However, if you prefer academic, then search terms like bene moriendi and memento mori turn up some results in Google Scholar, such as this one https://www.jstor.org/stable/24640795

Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 7:20 am

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Jeremy Taylor wrote:

Like pure Marxism, all these strains are dangerous precisely because they reduce individuals to categories - we saw this with Kavanaugh, who often was attacked more as an allegory than individual - and because they see all norms, institutions, history, except a few sentimentalised ones belonging to the lower classes, as indelibly tainted by their origin in an exploitative. In Marxist terms, these institutions and values are bourgeois.

I see most attacks on Marx also as attacks against more like an allegory, not against the person or his ideas. This is particularly so given the fact that hardly anyone politically active (in the United States or broader in the West) explicitly or knowingly operates with reference to Marx or Marxism. And even implicitly there is nothing much in Marx to serve as a guideline or explanation for the behaviour of the current mainstream left. The political parties straightforwardly self-labelled as Marxist or Communist, who would include members most likely to have read Marx or Lenin or Trotsky, have always been an ignorable minority.

Jeremy Taylor wrote:

... what do bourgeois norms and institutions like the rule of law and basic fairness, even between different classes (or the party and everyone else) have to do with proletarian justice, after all?

Now-now, how is rule of law or basic fairness a bourgeois value? And how can an actual bourgeois value, such as instituting the distinctions of prosperity between employees, business owners, and consumers, anything to do with basic fairness?

For example the LGBT gang keeps pressing the button of basic fairness and drags people to court to be judged according to law, no? So, rather than abolishing basic fairness, the idea is to redefine it and then to employ it with redefinition for their own purposes. Just like it happened/is happening with marriage - they did not abolish it but redefined it so that it is on the way of becoming a pointless thing.

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Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 6:08 am

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Etzelnik wrote:

I don't understand you. Do you not believe that men have the duty to try and alleviate the flaws of the world around them?

Sure I do. But there are ways to do it, such as blame liberals for everything (even when blaming them for playing the blame game), and then there are other ways to do it.

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And where have I mentioned money in any way? I have only said that the liberals seek to revoke religious freedom and freedom of speech. Was has that to do with Mammon?

You mentioned rights to run businesses. Where is that right in the Bible or in constitution anyway?

Religious freedom and freedom of speech sure are mentioned in the constitution, but the problem with this is manifold. The constitution being a secular point, it immensely diminishes the value of the whole discussion about it for me as a self-identified believer in the superiority of spiritual values. By those values, freedom of religion and speech have a different form regardless of any constution. And for anybody non-American pretty much everything you say looks like outrageous America-centrism (now tell that you don't care about non-Americans either).

In my view, there are ways to seek a solution constructive to the soul, staying true to universal spiritual principles, which should be valuable in themselves, even if not effective in the secular sense. What I see you doing is not only secular, not even narrowly party-political, but ideologically blind. Your approach woudl gain a lot with more focus on religious perspective.

Etzelnik wrote:

It's difficult to tell whether you're being obtuse or dishonest. Yes, the Masterpiece suit was brought by LGBT activists. That doesn't change the indisputable fact that the liberals as a group were opposed to the baker and in favor of Colorado's tyrannical behavior. I challenge you to show me as many liberal articles as you can in defense of the baker. I will match you, 10 to 1, with liberal articles in favor of Colorado.[/qu

Chit-Chat » Christine Blasey Ford is a liar » 10/05/2018 5:16 am

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Etzelnik wrote:

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So everybody you know was easily manipulated into panic mode and they voted against a perceived threat, instead of standing firm in character? Sorry, but sounds like something a bunch of liberals would do...

No. They recognized a clear and present danger to their rights to run their businesses, schools, and homes in accordance with their convictions, and they voted accordingly. If you think that's hyperbole, you obviously haven't been paying attention. What was Masterpiece Bakeshop if not a liberal attempt to crush religious freedom? Character doesn't include letting godless scum revoke your rights and force you to trample your most dearly held convictions in the mud. Americans realized this and made the difficult choice to vote for a bad man, because those who opposed him were an even greater threat.

According to the scripture, the world is doomed in general and we are supposed to wait for the next one. Whether liberals come trampling on your rights or you go overprotective of your mammon so as to blanket-term your opponents as liberals and seek out an ideological principle to exclude them from secular power - each are instances to show that this world is doomed.

Yes, it's okay to protect yourself by due process, but that by due process only, and when that does not work, the reason is that the world as we know it is obviously doomed. The secular powers are secular and, as such, it should be quite expected that the due process does not always work.

To think that the country or consitution or law and order is fixable by denouncing liberals is just political ideological bias. The bias is revealed as soon as you try to define liberals, their ideologies, and pinpoint their representatives. The harassers of Masterpiece Bakeshop were LGBT activists. To make it "liberals" is, to put it mildly, grossly inaccurate - it's not even overgeneralising, but simply false.

Much of anti-liberal rhetoric is inaccurate, sheer

Chit-Chat » Should we update to new forum software? » 10/05/2018 3:59 am

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The current software is good enough for me. I have more of a quibble with the structure of the subforums. I think it's too overdifferentiated. Having just three subforums would be enough:

- On-topic (labelled the same as the title, which is in itself a narrow enough topic with a narrow gang of participants so that art, philosophy, literature, history, practices etc. can all be safely included without differentiation; if you want to have an orchestrated group reading/discussion it can be a pinned thread)
- Off-topic, including pinned Greetings and Welcomes
- Test/Admin (perhaps hidden from unregistered public)

From past experience I'd say Simple Machines and ElkArte are good softwares and WordPress is bad. But hey, whatever works for you admins...

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