It's ironic that I once told a Trump supporter that someday you will hail Trump as a man sent by God!
Guess what...
 

nojoum wrote:

It's ironic that I once told a Trump supporter that someday you will hail Trump as a man sent by God!
Guess what...
 

There is nothing extraordinary about believing people can be instruments of God, even unawares. In the biblical worldview God uses both good and even sometimes evil men to accomplish His will.

What the OP said is hardly unique to Trump. There has been backlash against globalism since I was in high school in the 90s. When I took a Global Issues class, we talked about globalism and the consensus of the left was that it was actually a horrible thing and my teacher was borderline communist. Now the left is outright championing globalism. Still that teacher accepted Malthusianism, which like all false materialistic philosophies planted the seed for the destruction of the left in practice (he also used it to justify globalistic population control programs, artificial contraception, abortion, etc. - all of which require globalistic structures to enforce). The fact the left has been hijacked by neoliberalism (under Clinton) and far-left identity politics (under Obama) while pushing nonetheless for a global super state just shows, to me, that the liberal wing of Western societies were corrupted in their leadership and divorced from their own core beliefs, being fed a steady diet of manipulative propaganda and sophistry on one hand while impossibly still trying to forge a  "one world society." That is of course insane because identity politics is tribalism writ large. The Left then has the maddening audacity to accuse the right of engaging in Nativism! This once again is leftist projection.

Never-Trumpers and Leftists both call Trump a populist, which means he represents the beliefs that are popular among the people. So the message Trump is delivering first had its origins in the mind and thinking of the people. Now how does a democrat complain about the beliefs of the people being the voice of ultimate authority? Indeed, believers see it as a reflection of the voice of ultimate Authority; the left is supposed to believe it just is the ultimate authority.

It's the above endless contradiction and incoherence of the left that makes it presently very easy for conservatives to demolish them ideologivally whenever a level playing field is offered for combat (and the reason why folks like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro have become so incredibly popular: unleashed from the shackles of the more absurd limits of political correction and granted a broadly accessible platform they have free reign to expose the left's incoherence). Hence the absolute necessity of judicial tyranny and censorship by a never-ending expansion of political correctness for the left to survive and give the false impression that it represents society or the people at large. Take that away and the emperor is clearly seen to be strutting around naked.

Last edited by Timocrates (10/23/2018 10:46 am)

Timocrates wrote:

I don't know much about the circumstances in Yemen but I do know Trump has demonstrated an unwillingness to involve America in unnecessary conflicts. His handling of North Korea and Syria so far are strong proofs of that, in my opinion.

His handling of North Korea, Syria, Iran, and most lately of the nuclear anti-proliferation treaty with Russia are strong proofs of that Trump has no clue what gets countries in unnecessary conflicts. Moreover, he is pretty happy to stir up conflicts. In his mind, conflicts stirred up by himself are good. Conflicts that UN attempts to deal with are bad because that's UN doing it, not Trump. UN has not solved some things, therefore it can never solve anything (the same principle of course cannot apply to Trump, because there is nobody better than Trump). Conflicts that have found diplomatic solutions in the past, insofar as they are known to exist, deserve to be stirred up again because this puts Trump at the centre of the arena.

Timocrates wrote:

He's also a traditional American geopolitical isolationist, an extremely radical turn from post-WWII tendencies of the United States.

He is more like a unilateralist. He loves a unipolar world with himself in the limelight and everybody else at various secondary roles.

Last edited by seigneur (10/24/2018 2:23 am)

Timocrates wrote:

I also really like your deliberately chosen username. Very special.

My username is a little play on my actual surname. To make an issue of it is like making an issue of Trump's surname.