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12/06/2018 2:57 pm  #21


Re: A Question About Free Will

OK. So you are saying that it doesn't follow that, if a creature is a rational agent, then the creature has free will/makes free choices? If so, cool.

I think it's a problem for Thomism to hold both that God is the first cause of every motion, first cause in any hierarchical order of causes, and to hold that acts of will are motions, and to hold that the controlling cause of the rational creature's acts of will is not God - however much Thomism wants to affirm concurrentism. 

I asked my earlier question because the usual answer is that the agent produces an effect in the recipient in line with the mode of being of the recipient. And in an argument for LFW, it would beg the question to define the mode of being of the recipient, the rational creature, in a way that already includes LFW as one of its properties. But I gather you're not making such a move. 

 

12/06/2018 5:48 pm  #22


Re: A Question About Free Will

To put it simply, I'm arguing that prior causal conditions that prompt a choice from a rational agent don't undermine that choice as free. I'm not touching on divine causality right now. Anyways I think I've hijacked this thread. I just realized that the discussion isn't very relevant to the OP's question.

Perhaps I'll submit a thread to discuss  what conditions need to be met for free will to be a reality.

Last edited by RomanJoe (12/06/2018 6:17 pm)

 

12/06/2018 6:30 pm  #23


Re: A Question About Free Will

RomanJoe wrote:

Perhaps I'll submit a thread to discuss what conditions need to be met for free will to be a reality.

You beat me to it. Before you edited your post, I was going to write:

You can always start a new thread on the topic and link back to this one. Once we get to the new forum and can split threads, we'll probably get rid of the threadjacking rule.

(I have to warn you, though, that if you start a new thread for a conversation with me right now, I'm likely to leave you hanging. Sorry.)

 

12/06/2018 8:23 pm  #24


Re: A Question About Free Will

 

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